In this episode of Results Beyond Dispute, host Dan Grunfeld, Esq., Neutral at Judicate West, sits down with three of California’s most respected public interest law leaders for a conversation about justice, leadership, and hope in challenging times. Joining the discussion are Kathryn Eidmann, Esq., President & CEO of Public Counsel; Monica Eav Glicken, Esq., CEO/Executive Director and General Counsel of Public Law Center; and Adam Murray, Esq., CEO of Inner City Law Center. Together, they lead organizations that serve tens of thousands of vulnerable individuals each year. Their work supports at-risk children and youth, unhoused families, veterans, immigrants, small businesses, and nonprofit organizations, often at moments of profound crisis. This episode explores what’s keeping these leaders up at night. The deeply personal journeys that led them to public interest law, the tension between direct legal aid and systemic change, and the evolving landscape of pro bono service. Through moving client stories, honest reflections on empathic strain, and a candid discussion about collaboration over competition in the legal services community, this conversation reveals both the weight and the meaning of this work.
🎙️ Results Beyond Dispute℠: Profiles in Excellence is the Judicate West podcast featuring engaging and wide-ranging conversations where thought leaders, practitioners, and other influential voices explore the ideas, issues, and conversations shaping the law and legal profession today.
🎙️ Results Beyond Dispute℠: Profiles in Excellence — A Judicate West Podcast
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Host:
Dan Grunfeld, Esq.
Mediator, Arbitrator, Referee at Judicate West
Bio: https://www.judicatewest.com/adr/daniel-grunfeld
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Guests:
Monica Eav Glicken, Esq.
CEO/ Executive Director and General Counsel, Public Law Center
Bio: https://www.publiclawcenter.org/about/staff/#monica-eav-glicken
Kathryn Eidmann, Esq.
President & CEO, Public Counsel
Bio: https://publiccounsel.org/staff/kathryn-eidmann/
Adam Murray, Esq.
CEO of Inner City Law Center
Bio: https://innercitylaw.org/staff/
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